This is the deposition of Dr. Gerhard Schrauzer, Ph.D., a retired chemistry professor. This is a very lengthy deposition, but in this excerpt, the professor discusses some of his research into whether Zicam or zinc nasal products can cause loss of smell. This deposition was taken in 2006 in the case of O’Hanlon v. Matrixx Initiatives, Inc., which was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California.
Q What scientific method have you employed to form your opinion that the actual cause of Dennis O'Hanlon's smell dysfunction was Zicam rather than a viral process or anything else?
A I have compared some of the other substances he was exposed to and eliminated those as possible causes of agents. Like he used a leather spray, Armor leather spray. I checked the Internet, for example, if there is any ever case of anosmia caused by Armor leather spray, which is a very popular spray. And I haven't found not one single evidence that ever anybody -- and this is an older product -- has ever reported loss of smell after using Armor leather spray. And when I looked up the Internet for Zicam, I got hundreds of cases. So that is how I based my evidence.
Q What other possible causes did you consider and rule out based on Internet research with respect to Dennis O'Hanlon's smell dysfunction?
A I was for a while thinking -- well, no. None other. No.
Q Putting aside the question of Internet research, what other possible causes did you consider and rule out as causes of Dennis O'Hanlon's smell dysfunction?
A I looked at his medical records. I was interested if he possibly suffered brain trauma at one time or had some other condition that -- or was on certain drugs that could cause changes in smell acuity, and I couldn't see any reason.
Q Prior to your involvement in this litigation, had you ever done any formal research into the causes of anosmia?
A Formal research, no.
Q Prior to your involvement in this litigation, had you ever done any research into the determination of whether intranasal zinc application can cause anosmia?
A No.
Q Prior to your involvement in this litigation, had you ever attempted to determine the cause of a specific individual's smell dysfunction?
A Yes.
Q Tell me what you did --
A Well, as a chemist, you see, there are certain substances that will result in temporary paralysis of the olfactory functions. Hydrogen sulfide is a good example. Hydrogen selenide is a good example. I worked close with hydrogen sulfide. S-u-i-f-i-d-e. And, you see, we chemists are exposed to such substances. We have students that may be exposed to such substances. So a knowledge of toxicology is very important. So we know that certain substances causes disturbances of smell function and taste function.
MR. LAZARUS: Move to strike as nonresponsive.
BY MR. LAZARUS:
Q Doctor, my question is whether you've ever, before your involvement in Zicam litigation, undertaken to determine whether an individual who has suffered smell dysfunction developed that condition as a result of any specific cause?
MR. WENZEL: As to his work on Zicam cases?
MR. LAZARUS: Prior to his involvement.
MR. WENZEL: Oh, prior to his -- sorry.
MR. LAZARUS: That's all right.
THE WITNESS: I'm not a medical doctor.
BY MR. LAZARUS:
Q I understand that and that's why I'm asking the question. Have you ever attempted to determine the specific cause of an individual's smell dysfunction prior to your involvement in this litigation?
A Right. And I have had one case of a person that lost his taste and smell following a viral infection. Yes.
Q Did you make a determination as to whether his smell and taste dysfunction was caused by a viral infection or some other potential cause?
A Based on his testimonial it was a viral infection.
Q Did you rule out other potential causes to determine that it was a viral infection in that instance?
A No.
Q Did you leave that to a medical doctor?
A Not even that. This was a person who had suffered permanent smell and taste function loss after a severe viral infection, and 30 years later he was still trying to sniff his food in order to get some taste sensation out of it. And he told me it was a viral infection, so -- that was one example.
Q Based on that, you concluded as a matter of scientific process that his smell dysfunction was caused by a viral infection?
A I concluded nothing. I just took the information.
Q Doctor, what is it in your professional background, training, and experience that qualifies you to offer opinions concerning what does and does not qualify under homeopathic medicine as a homeopathic remedy?
MR. WENZEL: Objection. Asked and answered and previously testified to.
MR. LAZARUS: I don't think so.
MR. WENZEL: He said he developed homeopathic products himself.
BY MR. LAZARUS:
Q Is that it?
A Yes.
Q And what homeopathic product did you develop?
A The selenium, for example, is a homeopathic product.
Q Did you develop selenium as a homeopathic product?
A I developed supplements, yes. And if you want to know, as an aside, I was even accused by our medical faculty that I was doing the big no-no in studying homeopathy at the University of California San Diego. Seriously, the levels -- and that is, of course, what separated me from the pharmacologists that -- and that is the real fundamental issue here also bordering on the Zicam case. My research has shown that levels very, very low can have profound effects, and that is basically what homeopathic practitioners have been preaching all along. But I've done that scientifically without using the terminology of homeopathy, eventually being damaging to my career.
Q When you say your research has shown that levels very, very low can have profound effects, are you talking about selenium?
A Not only selenium but also other metals. Cobalt, zinc, copper.
Q Is it fair to say that all the work that you've done to investigate whether intranasal application of zinc compounds can cause smell dysfunction has come since you began working with attorneys in cases against Matrixx and Quigley?
A Yes.
Q Were you aware that Robert Henkin is a member of the scientific advisory board of the Quigley Company, which is a maker of Cold-Eeze?
A I didn't know that.
Q Have you published in any scientific journal any of the opinions that are stated in or on the report in this case?
A No.
Q Have you made any effort to do so?
A Absolutely not.
Q Have you submitted any of the opinions stated in your report for any form of formal peer review?
A No.
Q Did you consider yourself an expert on the olfactory effects of intranasal zinc prior to being retained in the Zicam litigation?
A No. I was retained as a chemist.
Q Aside from the case reports by Drs. Jafek, Davidson and Hirsch, are you aware of any peer review publication of opinions that Zicam is the cause of anosmia?
A No.
Q Are you aware of any peer review publication of the opinion that Zicam can reach the olfactory epithelium in the absence of sniffing?
A Could you kindly repeat this.
Q Are you aware of any peer review publication which states the conclusion that Zicam can reach the olfactory epithelium in the absence of any sniffing?
A The only published paper I would consider is the paper by Davidson and Alexander.
Q And Davidson and Alexander concluded that ordinarily a sniff will be required to cause Zicam to reach the olfactory epithelium. Correct?
A I think so. Yes.